SGI: Development

Hi all,

Rich and i are still busy with Seamonkey 2.0 / Firefox 3.5 port. Hopefully i can get it done soon, so i can test the nspr pthread problems i discovered when running the 3.0.15 build.

We're helping eachother with compiler/C++ tips via email. He actually fixed a generic problem with header instantiation where templates and forward declarations are involved. i have to revisit my 3.0.15 patch and rework some of them.

Oh and '-Zf,_330 -ptused' in CXXFLAGS proves to be more robust than the generic options. The 3.3 Cfront frontend bypasses some dodgy g++-isms.

Hang in there guys! Holiday season is hitting us hard so there isn't much happening in terms of cool software projects and on top of that, my build machine rootdisk is giving errors so i have to duplicate that disk soon.

cheers,

Dex

go dex. go!

Firefox 3.5.6 patch file and first build is done. Running it gives me various runtime assertion failures:
Again i'm using lots of precompiled gtk+ glib stuff and gettext is giving me problems in circular dependencies, but atleast i have something to go on.

Let's attempt an optimized build first and also backport some stuff into Firefox 3.0.15, but i'm not going to spend much time there since the 3.0.x tree will be shelved pretty soon in favor of 3.5.x and the new 3.6.x trees

You the man, dex! Even though I'm all out of SGI kit, big up for the good work!

dexter1 wrote: Rich and i are still busy with Seamonkey 2.0 / Firefox 3.5 port. Hopefully i can get it done soon

any progress?
Every now and then FF/SM alert about available updates ... while we IRIXers are still stuck with FF2.0/SM1.1.
I wish you´d succeed in doing your port before the "amigafication" process of IRIX progresses too far 8-(

Sometimes I think I need to seriously look into gluing a ncurses UI onto Gecko/Webkit...

Way back in the early days Mike Shaver tried to do an Xlib/Xt-only port of mozilla, and concurrently there was a "keep the Motif version breathing" port, but both have long since fallen by the wayside...

vishnu wrote: Way back in the early days Mike Shaver tried to do an Xlib/Xt-only port of mozilla, and concurrently there was a "keep the Motif version breathing" port, but both have long since fallen by the wayside...

Unfortunately, the Mozilla team seems to let lots of interesting things fall by the wayside. They're currently dropping support for Mac OS X 10.4 despite Firefox 3.X having on the order of 1.5 million 10.4 users, many of which are probably running G3 machines with no 10.5 upgrade path.

Hi folks,

Firefox 3.6 has a lot of glibc-isms, which i'm trying to iron out. 3.5.7 is running, but assertion failures prevent it from opening windows, or so i think. In SeaMonkey 2.0.1 i still have a dependency problem to solve. 3.0.17 is ported and running but still suffers from a bug in nspr/pthread.

I'm currently over my ears in attending classes and doing homework, not to mention finishing a new PC build at home (first in 7 years). I was hit by a nasty VBIOS bug in the newest Radeon card i bought, which underclocked the GPU too low. This prevented me from running Ubuntu and Windows 7, though in games it was fine . Fortunately a VBIOS flash from Sapphire Tech fixed it.

Anyway, i'll try to keep up with some builds going the next few days.

Yours,

Dex

nekonoko wrote: [...]They're currently dropping support for Mac OS X 10.4 despite Firefox 3.X having on the order of 1.5 million 10.4 users, many of which are probably running G3 machines with no 10.5 upgrade path.

One of them would be me... I was actually surprised that 3.6 installed on my G3 . Do you have a pointer to some discussion or suchlike about dropping support? I was looking for it once 'cause I've heard this before, but failed to find it...

dexter1 wrote: Hi folks!

Hi Dextrose !

Hey, did your university hurt the feelings of the Chinese people or something ? I keep getting

"You tried to visit www.mechanics.citg.tudelft.nl , which is not loading."

from the DNS server here when I try to go to nekoware.

emgaron wrote: One of them would be me... I was actually surprised that 3.6 installed on my G3 . Do you have a pointer to some discussion or suchlike about dropping support? I was looking for it once 'cause I've heard this before, but failed to find it...

Sure, here's a CNet article on the decision which also has links to the relevant posts on the developer's mailing list:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000056-264.html

nekonoko wrote: Sure, here's a CNet article on the decision which also has links to the relevant posts on the developer's mailing list:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000056-264.html

The Mozilla people are really nice. I like them a lot

I will bet $100 cash money that the version that drops support for 10.4 is not 30% faster and that claim is just another Mozilla Corp Big Fat Lie.

nekonoko wrote:

emgaron wrote: [...]Do you have a pointer to some discussion or suchlike about dropping support?[...]

Sure, here's a CNet article on the decision which also has links to the relevant posts on the developer's mailing list:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000056-264.html

Thanks - my search skills seem to suck sometimes... Looks like I have to come up with a plan for the G3 at some point - but then again, Apple's support for 10.4 is also limited (or gone already? I once searched for a life cycle policy on Apple's site - and failed to find it <sigh> ), so security updates aren't forthcoming, anyway.

emgaron wrote: Looks like I have to come up with a plan for the G3 at some point - but then again, Apple's support for 10.4 is also limited (or gone already? I once searched for a life cycle policy on Apple's site - and failed to find it <sigh> ), so security updates aren't forthcoming, anyway.

Apple can be almost belligerent when it comes to providing even basic software life cycle information. Whenever I've had conversations with people in their enterprise computing organization, I've told them that's a big problem for enterprises.

For the moment, although 10.4 itself hasn't gotten any updates since last year, Apple seems to be updating things like Safari and iTunes on 10.4.

The current versions of Opera and iCab still support 10.3 , so perhaps future versions of those browsers will support 10.4 for quite a while, but I haven't looked into that.